wows california vs florida
+1 on the review but I am enjoying the Florida. I bought the super Pershing in Tanks.. opps. If given the opportunity to fire nothing but AP, Florida does really well. Frankly, this is only going to happen if your opponents are idiots. You have to remain flexible with her ammunition choices. Keep the Expert Loader skill in mind. It's very handy for this ship if you're going to build a dedicated Florida captain. There's nothing too surprising about California's options. Compared to the 380mm, 406mm and 410mm shells being thrown about by some of her tier mates, their individual shell performance is middling at best. Florida (on the left) using a standard dispersion test. This is 180 AP shells fired at a stationary Fuso bot. Shots are coming in from the left to right (Fuso is bow-tanking). California is on the right with the same parameters. California uses American battleship dispersion with 1.9 sigma versus Florida's battlecruiser dispersion with 1.7 sigma. Florida feels appreciably more accurate than most other American battleships, though her lower sigma value will make her feel only slightly better than ships like California or Arizona. Simply put, it's the only thing which makes this ship viable as a tier VII vessel and even then it barely passes muster. Very slow top speed of 20.5 knots and poor handling as a result despite her smaller turning circle radius. Her improved dispersion via sigma will only be apparent over the course of multiple games rather than individual matches. If I can help others avoid that, I will. This means for California to be worth her price tag, she's gotta make it up elsewhere. 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Shots are coming in from right to left with Fuso bow-tanking. The totals have gone OVER in 7 of Queens' 11 last games at home. Wargaming burned me once too often in World of Tanks. QueensFGCU. There should be no surprises for anyone here. Bet now! If I were to purchase one, Florida would get my money for sure., Whilst I appreciate the very solid review you have provided for yet another ship, I am far more appreciative of your last few paragraphs on @Critter8and the rest of you folks. Her secondary armament is divided into two gun types. The first is the twin 127mm/38 we're used to seeing on every American battleship. But these are supplemented by four single 127mm/38 turrets akin to what you might find on an American destroyer like Benson or Sims. This effectively gives her an eight-gun secondary broadside -- two fewer than you'll see on higher tiered American battleships like North Carolina, the SoDaks, the Iowa-sisters, etc, but it's right on par with California's battery. However, Florida manages to have the equivalent broadside to a ten-gun secondary battery like the higher tiered ships because most American twin 127mm/38 guns have an artificially lowered rate of fire and the singles have a boosted one. Check out this nonsense! Florida's artificial fragility instead comes from three sources. The most influential of these is her citadel placement and geometry. Any battleship with her citadel sitting high over the waterline and abutting against the ship's exterior has a big ol' weakspot that's pretty easy to exploit. That, in of itself, isn't enough to damn a ship. For example, Soviet battleships all share this weak point, but many (if not most) of them are considered super-tanky. Therein lies Florida's second weakness: she lacks any form of extended armour to assist with shattering HE shells and ricocheting incoming AP rounds. While her amidships deck is a respectable 37mm, her butt, snoot and upper hull are all highly vulnerable. 25mm and 26mm armour are easily over-matched by the oh-so commonplace 380mm+ AP shells found at this tier. This armour similarly doesn't hold up against HE spam from cruisers and some destroyers. Thus Florida is much more limited when it comes to tanking incoming rounds. She can bounce 356mm armed battleships throwing AP in her face for days but angle improperly or test your luck against larger caliber guns and she goes down in a hurry. They're not thick enough to keep battleship caliber shells out. Double Down, Ohio! She can contribute. UNC heads to Tallahassee to face Florida State (9-20, 7-11) on Monday (7 p.m., ESPN) in the final road game of the regular season. However, the premium standards Arizona, West Virginia 1941 and now California, all lack this boost. Can only snipe and cannot take hits at all. California uses New Mexico's 356mm/50 caliber guns rather than Arizona's 356mm/45s. Louisiana: $2,546. Tip from Donald L. Tucker Center is at 7 p.m. Thank you a lot! Let's start with Florida's secondaries, because they're kind of neat in a pointless, fun bit of trivia kind of way. Alright, that's enough fussing over what is little more than a curiosity. Let's get onto the meat of the matter. When it comes to Florida vs California to live, Florida is significantly more affordable than most parts of California. Certainly can defend herself against carriers with her decent AA. Lemme stress: They're fine. So, there are slow battleships in World of Warships and then there are the American premium standard-types. California's weapons are only okay at tier VII. Just saw ichase's vid also. Live stream California vs. Florida State on fuboTV: Start with a 7-day free trial! I was going to take a break after Siegfried and Agir's review was published. Queens are 3-2 in their last 5 games against the spread. Queens are 9-8 in their road games against the spread. Build for survivability and fire resistance. I for one wouldn't have spent a nickel on your game without her. You can see just how massive her 35mm anti-torpedo bulges are. However, for a consumer looking for the best bang for their buck, why buy California when Arizona is available? Despite all that, what I really like about her is that her guns (while not powerful as you'd expect, which is mentioned) are fairly accurate at all but extreme range. I also like her secondaries, as they have decent enough accuracy and reach out to 6.6 with aft+flag. The single 5" guns tend to land their hits a lot vs the dual 5" guns (though that is not be saying much considering. I just came to read another review by LWM, and donot have Florida, but I have been farming in Narai since other farming OPs were taken down. I think the best thing to examine is how worth it is the ship in not just randoms and ranked, but coop and ops. This is the first meeting of the season between the two programs both coming off of big, emotional wins. LOCATION: Donald L. Tucker Center in Tallahassee, Florida. Summary so far: California has absolutely amazing AA levels. Main Battery: Twelve 356mm/50 guns in 4x3 turrets in an A-B-X-Y superfiring configuration.Secondary Battery: Sixteen 127mm/38 guns in 8x2 turrets in superfiring pairs on either side of the ship facing fore and aft. As for the economic impact, Californias unemployment rate more than doubled to 9.3% since February 2020, while Floridas rose by less, from 3.3% to 5.1%. Hell, if you're a fan of PVE you get an even better deal with most scenarios now being limited to tier VI these days. The 0.8s improved reload time and harder hitting AP shells are okay, but you can't feel the 0.1 sigma difference. Hmm Thanks Mouse really good food for thought. I think she's too soft to be good enough to be a true BB and that makes it doubly hard when paired at top or mid tier where you are expected to be the beater for your team. I have always been enjoying your reviews, LittleWhiteMouse. California's shells have higher muzzle velocity. This is why I frown on a difference of 0.1 sigma being used as a selling feature -- it's a "spreadsheet" value that will affect a ship over the course of several games but isn't likely to be significant within a single match. Looking at the charts, i'm surprised how average Poltava is. Florida wins this battle hands down. California's protection scheme is decent for a tier VII battleship but it's nothing special either short of her anti-torpedo protection (which is good but not as amazing as the size of her bulges would suggest). California epitomizes the state that chose harsh conformity instead. I think they are some of the most interesting warships of the Second World War. I do so hope they finally understand how important an active, vocal gaming community is to a game such as WoWS., Thanks for sharing a bit of history with us., Awesome retrospective. The following is a review of USS Florida, the tier VII American premium battleship. I dunno what's going on with California's turrets with her Freedom camouflage. Thank you for having the integrity to call WG out on their shenanigans. The final difference is cost. Everyone has their preferences but it's not bad. It's such a bloody shame. I have felt these three combined weaknesses acutely with Florida. I don't feel that they're enough to damn the ship, but they are very obviously weaknesses. Unlike the higher tiered sniper-battleships, Florida finds herself more often in claustrophobic maps where she cannot rely on simply out-ranging targets. She's asked to tank a lot more more than say, Champagne. Even when she does appear on larger maps, this comes with the threat of higher-tiered opponents and more overmatching guns so it's catch 22. Knowing which opponents you can face tank and which you can't are important. But so very often I was forced to show my cute butt and kite away when the pressure was on. Florida's not-good(ish) forward fire angles meant that firing all three turrets forward was just asking to have shells rammed into her stepped citadel. It was far safer to fight, firing over her shoulder with her forward turrets slinging shells to her rear., Being far more limited in what aggressive plays this ship can make hurts her carrying ability. Turning to fight will often just get you killed. It limits what decisive actions she can take. It's hard to be heroic if you're constantly forced to follow Sir Robin's playbook.. Alec Lasley. The only thing to watch out for is if one your DD/CL uses smoke and hide all other ships, MO will target you and you don't want that with Florida's armor. Pow Wows In Your State Pow Wows in California Redbird's 21st Children of Many Colors Intertribal Pow Wow 2023 Jun 2 - Jun 4, 2023 - Oxnard CA Remember when they said rebuiled West Virginia would be to powerful at tier7. Overall, the accuracy is very good, but not "crazy". This might have meant something back before the CV rework, but it's a joke currently. I have 2 battles in it in randoms but only because I've been playing a lot of ranked plus grinding out the Minnesota. The moneyline odds say Florida has a 62.3% chance of winning this game. She doesn't get access to Aiming Systems Modification 1 to reduce her main battery gun dispersion. How Much Is the Property Tax in Florida? Florida basketball got back on the winning track on Tuesday night with a 77-67 win over the Georgia Bulldogs on the road in the penultimate regular-season game for the Gators. Florida and California responded to the COVID-19 pandemic in vastly different ways, but comparing outcomes isn't so simple. That's MUCH better than 1.5 sigma on New Mexico!" This isn't exactly welcome for such a slow brick with a big squishy snoot to boop. The first element is symptomatic of American battleships as a whole, especially the new line of American battleships that Florida heralds. At 33.5 seconds per volley, Florida's reload isn't as bad as some of the others in the new tech-tree, but let's not mince words: It sucks to wait that long between trigger pulls. I can stomach this if the results for waiting are particularly amusing, however Florida's gunnery is an exercise in frustration for me because of my second gripe: Florida's shell hits are not satisfying. Florida's shells, both AP and HE, don't hit especially hard. Their damage values are lower than you might expect for a 356mm weapon. In fact, Florida's damage output on her AP and HE shells is most closely matched by those off the sixteen-gun Lyon. Lyon has only a 30 second reload, I remind you, 3.5 seconds faster than Florida with a four-gun advantage. Compare: Her individual hits just aren't doing as much damage as other American battleships. While she still has better broadside weight than the ten-gun armed New York-class, she's well behind the other twelve-gun armed American standards despite having a better reload time than all of them. This deficit in shell damage (combined with her slower reload) means that in terms of raw damage potential, Florida falls way behind, ending up in the bottom half of the DPM charts despite her large number of guns. The property tax in Florida averages at 0.98% whereas in California it is 0.73%. I find california to have more of a culture than florida. Furthermore, that big 26mm area is just begging to receive hits from HE spam. Take this review lightly. Mouse, while knowledgeable, is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us. I HATE w One of those was a T8 battle and one a T9.. Thanks for your hard work. The PvE-exclusive player doesn't appreciate a ship's strengths and vulnerabilities through the same lens as a KOTS finalist, for example, nor should they be expected to. The historical design was called for a ship with nine 250 mm guns in three triple turrets with two superfiring at the front and one at the rear. Hard pass, ladies and gentlemen. Double Down, Ohio! Fair enough. Granted I have California too (mostly due to 1. Historical Ship and 2. Native Californian) but she is a slow girl relegated to sitting TALLAHASSEE Flexing his power over one of Floridas largest employers, Gov. Summary so far: Well, so far so good, I suppose. Her protection scheme is otherwise fine though her snoot is a huge weak spot. WHEN: Monday, Feb. 27, 7 p.m. California vs. Florida: A tale of two Americas From a distance, Florida and California look similar: beaches and natural disasters, theme parks full of tourists, and Okay fine Germany get's 1/4 that allows theirs to even wreck BB's when they hit weaker armour spots, fine, USN 127 mm guns should still have some decent range and be able to aim someplace they do damage on non-DD's and not just be fire starters. Is California worth it? It should be hella tasty and refreshing. Wargaming knows it too. If she was still a tier 6 price I'd still take a bite without hesitation but this is just darn disappointing. This doesn't look like a good ship at all. Arizona is "long ranged" for a tier VI battleship once you install Gun Fire Control System Modification 1, so you largely duplicate California's schtick there too. Florida played solid defense throughout the night, holding Georgia to 33.3 percent from the field and 18.2 percent from 3-point range (4-of-22) while recording 8 steals and 6 blocked shots. Florida Scoring. As good as California's lateral protection is, her big weak spot is her bow. USN could choose between type of plane, type of ordnance, etc. Furthermore, it's not going to put off a determined tier VIII carrier even for a moment. You probably want Expert Marksman over Adrenaline Rush on your first pass. Coz no mehbote to gudbote rating. "Ooh, 1.9 sigma with twelve guns? Well, this accidentally turned into a much longer review than I had intended. I was originally just going to line up Florida alongside California, compare the two and then pull a surprise-reveal that they both suck equally. Instead, I learned last week that Ship Comrade, the site run by @Critter8 that has hosted my reviews since the first quarter of 2016 was going to close down. Instead of working on how to cleverly cast shade on anyone that enjoyed either one of these tier VII American premium battleships, I spent the better part of two days going through years worth of archived jpegs and text, reflecting on the years I've spent writing for World of Warships and all of the help, support and encouragement Critter8 provided me. California's speed is a severe handicap, but you knew that coming in. All they had to do was drop the reload down to sub 30 seconds and I think more people would be interested in her. Why she has such high reload on s Another review done really well. This means that a staggering 1,700,383 people are The housing market in California can be exceedingly expensive even for a relatively modest-sized place. Arizona has better upper-hull armour. She doesn't have improved heals like the British battleships. In theory, California has some pretty good AP damage output. Based on our research, heres the ranking of states where average annual car insurance rates are the most expensive: Florida: $2,560. Florida's secondaries are too short ranged to be worth specializing into. They also lack the accuracy buff that makes Massachusetts and Georgia such units. These twin factors are enough to discourage anyone from spending skills or upgrade slots on them, to say nothing of Florida's durability issues (which I will [edited] about at length below).. Unfortunately she can't really take advantage as well as another battleship might because of her slowness. The horrible fire arcs on California's guns will necessitate more manoeuvring to swing out her guns and then duck back which will only ensure she's stuck on the lower end of this speed. In terms of pricing, Legoland Florida is slightly cheaper than Legoland California. The perks they gave her to compensate, namely good AA, nice range, good concealment and more accurate guns, don't cut the mustard for me. The reload time is my biggest issue.. ", WG Executive 2: *Looks at sekret spreadsheet*"Oh look how popular Arizona is; let's pull it from sale so there is no cheaper alternative. Floridas games this season have gone over 6.5 goals 37 of 62 times. Ez fix". Wow California is finally upon us? Great work as always, Mouse! Thus her range becomes even more important. LittleWhiteMouse, July 2, 2020 in General Game Discussion. Now, let me be clear: Arizona, the tier VI American premium, is awesome. Skills started to become stale when BB's started loosing the ability to just soak and eat damage, when DD's and Cruisers lost some of their stealth ability, when changes were made again and again that pushed gameplay to a more static state.. Flak Bursts: 5 explosions for 1,400 damage per blast at 3.5km to 5.8km.Long Ranged (up to 5.8km): 137 dps at 75% accuracyMedium Ranged (up to 3.5km): 364 dps at 75% accuracyShort Ranged (up to 2.0km): 490dps at 70% accuracy. 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