vkb vs virpil elite dangerous
Only set up a profile for each device with the other unplugged. My own conclusion was that VKB is around 10% cheaper and 99% as good as Virpil. Generally you will find that Virpil is considered the top dog in the mid-range sim gear bracket. I think that there's a good chance that the Gunfighter + mcg ultimate will take the spot as best consumer joystick on the market. For around $70 you can get the Virpil Desk Mount V3-S. I only have experience with vkb, but from everything I've read on here they are, for the most part, neck and neck, and I can't see you being disappointed with either. I can't speak for Virpil's interiors but I've been inside the grip on my VKB and the way they use independent little boards with pin receptacles to link things together on the Kosmo Premium is amazing, and would be very easy to obtain parts for repair if only one control were to fail for any reason. September 8, 2019 in Hardware, Software and Controllers. 4 - what grip do people think is better the T-50 or the alpha? Everything about it is perfect. Theres even a line of collective grips on the way, which will be perfect for the new helicopters coming to DCS World and Microsoft Flight Simulator in the not-to-distant future. Unless you know where they are on the sticks, it'll be very confusing. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Right? I do find VKB to do much nicer and cleaner internal work which matters if or when you have to open up your grip. Thank you guys for the help. Virpil also may be a little easier to get your hands on sooner rather than later. JavaScript is disabled. Also, I did notice some defective materials in the batch of products that I received. Have a look through the Virpil forums. > Tutorials and everything HOTAS related. I also had several screw heads shatter as I attempted to remove them, either due to being made from weak metal or being gummed up with too much thread locking paste. I found a couple of programs like this but some of them are no longer operational or are too limited to map more than 32 buttons themselves. But that being said, if you're focusing on space games, I'm leaning towards thinking you'll prefer the gunfighter + kosmosima or virpils constellation. When it comes to calibration and programming, you will similarly need to find your own way with the community of users on YouTube and on message boards as Virpil offers next to no help in getting things squared away. JavaScript is disabled. - VKB gunfighter base vs Virpils bases: VKB has a dry clutch. Privacy Policy. Unfortunately, they're a way down the list now. Virpil pedals are much, much lower to the floor and accommodate a wider stance which, as a 66 man, I greatly appreciate. Has a learning curve for sure, but I wholly recommend Virpil. Got a Virpil throttle but I can only program about half the hats, axis', and buttons because of ED limiting us to 32 "buttons" per device. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/request-for-more-than-32-buttons-virpil-throttle.443129/page-4. I'm not an expert by any stretch, I only intend to use this for Elite Dangerous. HOTAS (hands on throttle and sticks) All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. A lot cheaper and for someone that isn't hardcore into tons of flying will be more than sufficient. I have a warthog here, definitely above other sticks I owned, I feel like Virpils are too. Toe in and out being the most prominent I can see. Using a Virpil HOTAS in Elite Dangerous Ken Cikas 1.25K subscribers Subscribe 61 Share 7.4K views 2 years ago Finally got around to editing this down. For around $70 you can get the Virpil Desk Mount V3-S. To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. Im looking at either going the virpil mongoos T-50 CM2 base with the mongoos T-50 CM2 grip or constellation alpha grip with the 200mm S curve extension for 554.81 euro (905.89 aud) (includes shipping). I have an in-depth write up here. Both companies use high quality metal gimbals and contactless sensors for axes. If you use the Virpil software there's an option somewhere to divide number of controls into groups of 32. Thank you for all the suggestions. They strike a good balance between price point and feature set, sitting comfortably in between classics like the Logitech X-52 and the Thrustmaster T16000, and higher end products from Thrustmaster and VKB. 1 - does anyone have both of these setups and can tell me what they prefer? A good USB powered hub should help with this. I could hit the gas on the main thruster to accelerate forward, rotate my ship in place, then roll left while also moving slightly down and sliding to the right all at the same time. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn34PHd34x4, Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8odaH98Yms. I have both and for me the VKB just wins out. For more information, please see our Just got the Virpil Constellation Alpha-R grip with the Warbrd base, as well as the 50 CM2 throttle and elite doesn't see any Virpil hardware. The VKB Ultimate grip may be interesting due to the material and modularity of it. Jmo That's it. Ive been taking it for a test drive on my custom-built flight rig. Just wish they would have shipped with more replacement parts if they're so prone to breaking under regular usage. Oops. But now Im able to use the two sticks twist axes to handle strafing (right) and moving up and down (left). Very close to the real thing (comparing it to C-130J and A400M controls). I used this for my warthog. I received it in just over 4 weeks too, just a day before Christmas! 04.08.20|The sheet for the Throttle has been updated (a button was missing). Try contacting vkb about the broken parts, depending on how old your stick is, I've seen people post on here that they just sent them a bunch of parts to repair failed items. If you go with a HOTAS solution instead, making use of one of Virpils fully-customizable throttle boxes, youll need a slightly larger version of the clamp and a special adapter plate. The thing that really sold me on it is that the hat switches and mini sticks on the the top are completely modular, so you can literally just drop whichever one you like to suit your purposes without having to take apart the stick. I love both sets but have settled on an MCG Gunfighter with T-rudders and the Virpil throttle. Looking at grips VKB and Virpil are more similar and it feels like preference is mostly related to hand size and just what each person prefers. So I accidentally broke my TM Warthog yesterday, not a fun experience. Explaining the difference is difficult to do with words. VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. I will be using the TM Warthog grip with a stickextension, so if anyone happens to run a similar setup on either the VKB or Virpil yourthoughts will be greatly appreciated. (e.g. Common sense tells me that the Gladiator NXT is the sensible option. I found a couple of programs like this but some of them are no longer . It may take time. Both can be gotten with twist. My VKB Controls My Universe Gladiator NXT Joysticks Shop our Gladiator NXT EVO Series of Joysticks Gladiator NXT EVO 'Space Combat Edition' - Left Hand From $135.00 USD Gladiator NXT EVO 'Space Combat Edition' - Right Hand From $135.00 USD Gladiator NXT EVO Omni Throttle - Left Hand $175.00 USD Gladiator NXT EVO Omni Throttle - Right Hand For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. See our ethics statement. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. By Ace pedals also have a much better mounting solution, in my opinion, compared to the TPR pedals. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. VKB complicate unnecessary the things, because being a "Apple" require a additional electronic/mechanic adapter ($60), but their Gunfigther Mk.II* base wasoptimized for deal withWarthoggrip weight. If youre stuck on Microsoft Flight Simulator especially the big commercial airliners give Honeycomb Aeronautical a try. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. 03.03.20|The sheets for the ALPHA-grips have been updated (the dual-push for the scroll encoder has been added and there was a problem with duplicating entries). Better still, the Constellations side-mounted thumbsticks mean that you can actually navigate on foot without ever taking your hands off the joysticks. Yes I followrd their guide. I do use pedals too but haven't even mapped twist on my right hand, so that's itself not a limitation if you didn't intend to use them. Virpil has its own configuration and testing. Somebody has also made some printable maps so that you can record what and where you have settings. I didn't say ED provided a game setting for Virpil. The right-hand stick still has complete control of pitch and yaw, while rudder pedals handle roll. HOSAS made me a harder target to hit, and helped to improve my own aim especially with fixed weapons. The Virpil Constellation Alpha also comes in a left-handed variant. Press J to jump to the feed. I will try them. You're not running all your USB devices through the one hub are you? WarBRD with more throw has some difficulties for center this heavy grip. It feels more robust than the Logitech X-52 and X-56, but lighter than the all-metal Thrustmaster Warthog. It will also likely have the same kind of impact when Elite Dangerous: Odyssey launches later this year, adding first-person, on-foot gameplay to that spacefaring game. VIRPIL hardware key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out, https://virpil.freshdesk.com/en/supes/47000029808-vpc-software-quick-start-guide, HOTAS Warthog Flight Stick - Thrustmaster - Technical support website, https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/controls-not-sticking.558432/#post-8792964. You must log in or register to reply here. Edit: Didn't realize that winwing sticks were metal. Virpil is a more competitive option if you want to use TM grips out of the box (but you could just buy a VKB adapter and do the same or a WinWing base). By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Me personally I plan to upgrade to mcg ultimate with the gf mkIII base from vkb, when they come out for people who dont already have gf base in February. Probably a little bit of a chore to swap them out. It features a dead-simple clamp with an adjustable bite, which you can dial in to firmly grasp the edge of your desk surface and hold fast. They needed a bolt tightening inside to get rid of the wobble. Vectors which had previously been relegated to the keyboard or tiny hat switches were now integrated into the joysticks themselves. Did you a manage to get your bindings for Elite dangerous ? I use one from Wavlink and have 7 devices plugged into it with no problems, including a Virpil joystick, a VKB joystick and a Virpil throttle. Got a Virpil throttle but I can only program about half the hats, axis', and buttons because of ED limiting us to 32 "buttons" per device. If you have the budget for it, I'd say wait a week to see some reviews for the MCG Ultimate. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ultimately, it's likely either VKB or Vipril gear will work great for you and you'll be more than happy with either. A weekly roundup of the best things from Polygon, By submitting your email, you agree to our, Theres a new challenger in the world of flight sticks and throttles, Sign up for the My x55 stick looks like it's reached the end of it's life and I'm looking for a new stick first then we'll see. 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