bach minuet in g major analysis

124 (1730) March in D major, from Four Pieces for Anna Magdalena Bach, BWV Anh. The word minuet means small, pretty and delicate. And they ask a question. " - This Bach Minuet in G Major is intended as an exercise in reading standard music notation, hopefully what you've learned up to this point will help you to gain a certain level of fluency in. Audio: Youtube But if you try to play those traids under the melody- it sounds a little *off* ( though I could probably get used to itif I played it enough times). "Minuet in G Major" is one of the pieces in the collection called "Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach," which consists of many pieces presented by several different composers to J. S. Bach's 2nd wife, Anna Magdalena. The essential methodology is to examine all sequential time-scales within a piece using some analytic process and then arrange a summary of the analytic results into a maximally overlapped arrangement. Or upper neighbour. Audio: Youtube, Sheet Music: Schumann-Album for the Young No 21; C.F. Nah. δ λ inverse19. > How are you using the word 'accented'? has been burdened by (and has fooled around with) ever since. But I am still> convinced that there is a "design pattern" between the two and I just> need> to be able to get my hands on it explicitly. After several dances, each contrasting in style and tempo, Bach employs the use of formatting diversity. γ ?16.---------------------------------------17. In partimento it is common to give a 6th to a scale degree when ascending to . The symbols below then refer to melodic patterns in theright hand part. - the bottom one> sparsely filling in the harmony and gradually adding some animation> (forward motion) to the piece. The methods are applied in particular to musical key analysis (Chapters 2-4) and also adapted for use in performance analysis (Chapters 5-6). I'd have to also say that most people would disagree with that. Book Description The Contemporary Piano Literature series includes a selection of music written for children by Bartk, Gretchaninov, Kabalevsky, Prokofiev . IMO they were written at the same time as a demonstration betweenmajor and minor modes. Topics: Binary form Bach is using a pivot chord to modulate from G major to D major. >>>> Aurally, we have seemed to already modulated to the dominant as soon>> as this section starts!>>I don't agree. Minuet in G minor, BWV Anh. Easy two-part chorales and dances are followed by more demanding Section B is longer than section A, starting in E minor before returning to G major in measure 25. )>>So do my theory students. !>>>>>>(BIG disclaimer here - I'm looking at the Belwin edition that is>>>riddled with errors, so it's entirely possible that yours is different >>>from>>>mine (and mine is probably less correct, but I'll assume it is OK for >>>now).>>>> Nah. I'd claim this whole thing is a prolongation of D7, finallyreaching resolution at G in measure 16. >Having a good notation for that would be the>key to understanding it. Publisher: Paris: Ivan Ili It comes and goes. >> Aurally, we have seemed to already modulated to the dominant as soon> as this section starts! ?>I'd say I - I6 - IV - I6. Today, we remember Bach as an incredible musician and composer who gave us some iconic musical masterpieces such as his Cello Suite, Toccata and Fugue, and the Well-Tempered Clavier. In two voices, the way the two voices interact may take precedence >over their relationship to a chord. 1 in G Major (Minuets) (Passion 7). Topics: Binary form This I can grasp a bit easier, although I'd prefer a wider range ofexamples to draw from than Piston offers.I doubt I could Identify themin any given piece based solely on the info he provided. Dissonances are labeled in red and consonances in blue. Audio: Youtube Print and download Minuet in G Major, BWV Anh. - some people consider app. >>>>>>> 25* 26 27 28>> G C G D7 G D>> ___ ____ / / / ____>> I6 Iv I V764 I V>>m. β ?5. An open-ended first section invites the listener to expect more music and the piece as a whole is more coherent. Required fields are marked *. AUDIO: Chords and Roman numerals NCT Form down to the phrase level. By contrast, the solo Sonatas and Partitas for violin or cello,as twoexamples,*are*pinnicles and so are rich in their potentional forillumination thru musical analysis. 1st E was a misread, 2nd time I was referring to the soprano D at theend of m19. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. (fux) recommends before the ending,> although here it occurs in the soprano voice only as a melodic leap> and not quite (slightly before) the part where aloys. The C does go down to B (measure to measure),>>and the 5th is omitted (a common omission). What about m.5 being a V6/4? II 116 from Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach (J. S. Bach) * Chorus from Judas Maccabaeus (G. F. Handel) * Mussette, Gavotte II or the Musette from English At this point, it is worth stating how impressive and incredible it is that Bach is able to establish such patterns. As mentioned, we now know that it was really Christian Petzold. I don't agree. mm. >> OK - We are at the end of the first half of the melody, ending on a> half cadence - which leaves it incomplete >> mm.5-6 I've decide to interpret the chords full bar, which can be> argued with, but my analysis is leaning more towards> melody here and the actual chords seem less important right now. >>>>>>>>> * again, ignoring bass movement to 'D'>>>>>>That's not bass movement. Mesure 25 is just a momentary hint at G major - or could be the V of C minor - I'd have to look at it again but one measure of the opposite mode does not disrupt the key too much usually. Obviously it's to embellish a descending line. Iv6 I V6 I I6 V I. Well, I'm glad it is working out for you. There will be no Roman Numerals, Chord Symbols, or Harmonic Function Theory (e.g. Sheet Music: Wolf-In der Fruhe; Publisher: C.F. > I've always thought of much of >this as "gems" and nice models. >>>>>>>>No it's all V. Agian, my edition has the bass a dotted half, so it lasts >>>the>>>entire measure. >>>>> end B section>>>> --->>>> The parellels with this and the 'companion piece' in G minor(anh 115)>> are pretty obvious.>>Well, and most other minuets in this style too. The A section is composed of two 8 barpassages for a total of 16 bars. I was basing that on the A in the bass and the C in the last 8th ofthe soprano- using D dom 7th. It has a fast and skittish undertone, with constantly racing notes and moving rhythms. It certainly "pushes" ahead, but I wouldn't describe its destination a "cadence" (more like breathing- out in out). Eventually, it switches back to the main melody until the song ends with a rich long tone from the lower, The structure of this piece is strophic, as the music follows the two stanzas if the poem the song uses. I think of the first 4 as setting up the key and the mood, and rather static, and the last four more progressive and obviously going somewhere (the V for the first HC, and the I for the final cadence). I'm not trying to argue you - I accept your solution as making sensein context. Using the chords to see which they sound like they're a part of is a good idea, but don't pass judgement solely on that :-). The Urtext just inserts a quarter restbefore it in parenthesis ( and I *still* miss it. I also considered the fact that if I'm playingthe melody in the RH, I can only play close position chords in theleft, which is not ideal for working this out. >There is of course evolutionary development, and the two co-exist, but, as >I've said before, everything does not have to be a chord. 21 (1890) first time thru, He gives wholechunks of sound - one measure each (more open to interpretation IMO);9-16 there's more definition given via the increased bass motion ,soit's a little easier to see. Sheet Music: Schumann-Ich Grolle Nicht; Breitkopf & Hrtel, 1879-1912 Bach's famous pieces of music (Minuet in G) carries a chirpy and joyful emotion, as well as relaxing. @.> wrote in message >news:9b1u815d62a9l41v9@4ax.com>> Analysis - Menuet in G Major by Christian Petzold BWV Anh.114>>>> From "Anna Magdalena's Notebook">> Form AABB Time Sig - 3/4 (obviously)>>>>>> Simple Melody with simple LH counterpoint>>>> A Section:>>>> 1 2 3 4>>>> G * G/B C * G>> / / / ____ / / / ____>>>> I ? In fact, this is the first >mention I've heard of it for a while. >>>>>V4/3 -V6/5 | I (I6) | ii6-V-V | I>>>>The ii6 is a common thing to have on beat 1 of bar 15.>> now that one DOES sound nice with the full triads under it. The first part has cellos and violas and the second part has clarinets. Yes. > I did some re-reading on non-harminic tones in Piston,and quite> frankly, he doesn't do a good enough job explaining things clearly.> I'm still confused about things such as incomplete> neighbors,anticipations, escape and reaching tones. I hear/see it clearly now, after a few more days playing it. It is harmonically accompanying the angelical choir through the highs and lows of the chant. 2, Minuet, BWV Anh. >>>>>>>I'd say I - I6 - IV - I6>> // / ---- ------>> Just to clarify.>>>>>>>> 5 6 7 8>>>> Am G D G G D7>>>> ____ ______ / / / ________>>>>>>>> ii I V I6 I V7>>>>>>What about m.5 being a V6/4? (even knowing the piece). Audio: Youtube The bass never leaves the G (it's a half note).>>That D4 is a third voice entering for just these two measures (later in >>m.29>>too).> A -HA. ;-). >>That C4 is problematic because it's not a chord tone, but it is a >consonance. Yes, but an excellent place to start - especially for working out those ambiguities (or at least thinking about them in multiple ways). >and the A3 accented PT (or app. I mention this because I can't see how> to determine if that C4 is an upper neighbor or a suspension,for> instance . Theyr cadences are something like 3 2 1 in the Bass, and 1 7 1 in the melody (or inversions/variations). The 42 Greatest Catholic Liturgical Composers of All Time. Copyright: Public Domain The second of the minuets is in G minor, so the two could be played as a set - Major, Minor, Major again. This minuet is actually compiled as a pair - one in G major (which we're doing today), and another in G minor. Minuet in G minor 3. - the bottom onesparsely filling in the harmony and gradually adding some animation(forward motion) to the piece. The minuets are notable in many ways. 114 * Minuet in G minor, BWV Anh. You won't find that here no matter howhard you look. escape tones are "usually" approached by step, and left by leap in the opposite direction, like D E* C, C D* B, etc. Bach is in the key of G major as we can obviously see by the title: "Minuet in G". Minuet in G BWV Anh. stuff like that tends to get thrown outthe window infavor of arguments about whether this one or that would have used a b9here or there etc. The wholereason I learned the piece in the first place LOL! So this isn't really counterpoint??? not the best written articles, but I get the point. The orchestra starts with the themes and the solo bassoon takes the themes and varies them on top of the accompaniment., - The piece is almost entirely syllabic and based on the following 3 main themes:, Theres a drum ostinato throughout the whole piece. because my urtext has nodynamic markings. Topics: Binary form The tempomarking for the Minuet in G is Moderato. Non-chord tones are in parentheses in the bass (only). I see it now.>>Good, I hate this Belwin edition. I think both of them are just passing ideas (granted, passing ideas with some "hints at the dominant"). II 116 from . *: ambiguous - could be V6 or viio or just V with bass movement. Melodically, Holsingers is able to reflect the somber mood of the text by having lower, mellower voices carry the main tune while the upper voices serve as the more accompanimental figures until the high points of the piece, mostly when the melody goes into the refrain. This piece is a 32-measure composition in the key of G major. Again, we're moving past that in the Baroque, and the >Direct interval of 3 to 8 (it's direct if they move in similar motion) has >become the cadential favorite now (then). >>>> Based on what you've said here and playing it as written, I'd say>> yeah, definitely. Duet for Flute and Bassoon; 5. In bar 20, there is an A major chord. I think you are over-anylizing these two pieces, especially the Asections.Don't get too hung up on these minuets - I'll post some moreanalysis of other pices in this book(maybe) and later you can come back to these if you wish after you've seenthe bigger picture. ^2 = scale degree 2. I don't think it's necessary to analyze it here with different harmonies though. Understood. Anna M's notebook is just preliminary work to be gotten out of the waybefore attempting the really good stuff IMO. The tritone does hint at the dominant chord, but as later, this is a common chordal dissonance. >> remember the 2+ 1 Harmonic Rhythm we discussed in the minor version? Yes, but it's neither :-D - you've twice now invented em chords when there's no E present! Bar 20 sees the bass move to the scale degree in D major. Also, an analysis of I6/4 is incomplete as the cadence actually occurs on the downbeat of the following measure, and cadences do not occur in weird or asymmetric configurations at this point in music history. renato's palm beach happy hour Uncovering hot babes since 1919. We cadence to Bb at meas.>16.>Measures 17 -- 20 would seem to be in F and we are drifting back to>Bb in measure 22 and cadence to Bb in measure 24; then we slip into>G melodic minor ascending for the remainder of the piece (incidentally,>I still don;t know what to make of the G major in measure 25! Browse: Bach, J S - Minuet in G major, BWV Anh. >>>>Just adding forward motion - but there are NCTs there the C4 is UN (or >>App. The counterpoint is quite interesting in the first bar, regarding the 4 quavers. Just as the mediant is a third above and the submediant a third below. ). The piece was written not for the common individuals of the time but the musically elite. MEASURE MINUET IN G Minuet in Gm pattern Pattern----- ---------- -----------1. Copyright: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0, Sheet Music: Brahms-Waltz; Publisher: Breitkopf & Hrtel, 1865 >> [snip]>>>Ahh, what about that V in bar 13 - now it makes more sense from above>>doesn't it? Publisher Info: Pandora Records/Al Goldstein Archive The "B" on beat two is an upper-neighboring tone and the "G" on beat three is a passing tone - what could be seen as a 4-3 suspension. There's more to this >> Looking for landmarks: In the G major one, I only see a key change to D> major> (starting I think at bar 20 and changing back to G maj at 25 )>> In the G minor one, it is more complicated. The F3 just enters as a "third voice".Note in m. 30 you put IV6 I V6. I just wish he would have given> more 'workbook' type examples that would help drive the point home. And of course, The Toys added a few little tweaks to the original piece in order to update the song for its 1960s pop/rock version. Once you play a zillion of them they start to run together. Prelude in . The minuet became a stately court dance in the 17th and 18th Centuries. recommends. >> I chose vi instead of vi 6/4 in measure 14 because> a) vi 6/4 seems a little weird here - my ears here it as moving DOWN> to Em confirmed by> b) substituting a low E note for the B, which sounded perfectly fine> to me. Their answer is of course that both are types of V chord. Copyright: Public Domain, Dichterliebe, Op 48, VII Ich Grolle Nicht (1879-1912) They could be bigger leaps, but you often see them in this fashion. 15 * J.S. The Mozart Minuet and Bach Musette from the earlier edition were eliminated and replaced with two new 20th-century pieces by Bart k (noted below), and the Bach "Minuet in G Minor" (from J. S. Bach's Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach) has been moved to Volume 3. >(C is the consonance) and the first note of >the measure with no obvious preparation (or many rests before you get back >to the most previous note) then you really don't know whether it "would have >been" a sus, app, or NT (or even PT potentially) they call them Incomplete >Neighbo(u)rs. By changing the key, this gives the piece variety and makes it more intriguing. Its like these two pieces> evolved from a common ancestor, so to speak. When he finally reaches the tonic instead of modulating or choosing the harmonic route, it feels much more satisfying. I was just being grouchy for a second there - theres not really muchbullshit in here (Well, besides). Composed: 1720 Info: Minuet in D . You can download a free trial version atwww.forteinc.com. Lets break down this famous piece and lets see what we find out about it. >>Anticipations are non-chord tones (dissonances) that are played BEFORE the >remaining voices arrive at the chord. Since there is no longer any royalty, there is no longer any minuet.. Suffice to> say, I don't understand it *at this point in time*. They're two different works. )>>>and the A3 accented PT (or app. for any >>accented>>NCT that's not a sus. The whole piece is quite upbeat, which suits its purpose it is sang in celebrations., This was composed as an ensemble. Copyright: Public Domain yours is right, too. This is why a lot of people don't care as much for the incomplete neighbor solution - in one sense it's a cop out - basically whatever you can't identify call a IN! This quick stop on the scale degree then progresses to a half cadence in the next bar, ending the phrase. But if you try to play those traids under the melody> - it sounds a little *off* ( though I could probably get used to it> if I played it enough times). Bach wrote hundreds of pieces for organ, choir, as well as many other instruments. The melody soars up to two and one half octaves, leaping and swirling into a flourish of emotions. You've mentioned this a couple of times and Ihaven'tSL>really said too much, but, most minuets kind of follow generalpatterns andSL>you could probably find many with even close parallels to both. α λ2. The second minuet, almost in direct contrast, begins in minor form. But Am works, too.. >>>>> OK - We are at the end of the first half of the melody, ending on a>> half cadence - which leaves it incomplete>>many use the term "open". >>>>>> The change of the melody at m.15 gives it a feeling of finality>> - the "answer" to the "question" raised at m.7>>Sure, ant phrase ends on ^2, HC, and cons phrase ends on ^1, AC. And I never did. 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